A few updates on earning points for mortgage payments. I wrote the other day about earning transferable points with no fee using the Mesa card. It’s better than I thought.
First, I said there’s no initial bonus. That was wrong. Using a referral link there’s 5,000 points.
Second, I’m already making money on the new annual fee card. They’ve got the ‘coupon book’ model down that American Express pioneered and Chase is copying, but they aren’t using it to justify an annual fee. There is none. I got my $65 annual Costco membership fee rebated pretty much immediately (you can also choose BJ’s or Sam’s Club for this). And I’m getting $10 a month back on the dog food my wife buys anyway.
Here’s the coupon book:
- $30 per quarter statement credit with Lowe’s
- $65 big box membership statement credit annually (Sam’s Club, BJs, Costco);
- $200 home maintenance credit with Thumbtack (also can be used for house cleaning or Christmas tree removal)
- $100 statement credit on Armadillo home warranty purchases
- $10 per month statement credit with Wag!
- $10 per month statement credit with Farmer’s Dog dog food
Also, I’m discovering surprising points-earning for instance the coffee beans I order online are coding as 2x groceries and I wasn’t expecting that. But I’m still marveling at 3x earn on daycare – that’s an amazing category for a lot of folks and will make the card worth it on its own.
The key with this card is you don’t change how you pay your mortgage to earn points. This isn’t ‘charge your mortgage to the card and they cut a check to your bank’. Instead, you just tell them how much your mortgage is, and they award the points for it once you spend $1,000 on the card each month.
This makes me regret not escrowing taxes and insurance when I refinanced at sub-3% during the pandemic. But at the time I had a way to earn points on property tax payments at no fee (since killed) and I wanted to pay my homeowners insurance via credit card. Little did I know that escrowing taxes and insurance would be a better play for my miles!
Points can be spent at up to 1.3 cent apiece through their travel portal; at $0.008 apiece towards gift cards; or at $0.006 apiece as credit card statement credits. They also offer redemptions for closing costs on mortgages obtained though their marketplace.
Here are their points transfer partners so far – they say they are adding more:
Partner | Program | Transfer Rate |
Accor | Accor Live Limitless | 1.5 : 1 |
Air India | Maharaja Club | 1:1 |
Finnair | Finnair Plus | 1:1 |
Hainan Airlines | Fortune Wings Club | 1:1 |
Thai Airways | Royal Orchid Plus | 1:1 |
Vietnam Airlines | LotusMiles | 1:1 |
So far I’m thinking of the points as Avios, or short haul United redemptions through Air India (which start at just 3,500 points for coach and 7,000 for domestic first class).
Interesting finds here….now to debate whether to wait for 5/24 to settle down
Don’t expect or need you to leave this comment up, but hope you read it and think about it.
Thank you for posting new deals, but don’t you think you have an obligation to disclose the “gotcha” on this? About how they make their money- selling your data?
From the comments on your other post, “They use Plaid to harvest your data and verify your mortgage payment.”
Does Costco need to actually be a membership fee or will any charge at Costco get rebated up to $65?
You’re still ahead by not escrowing. I add 1/12 of my property taxes and insurance to my 4.2% HYSA each other. That’s a good chunk of dollars. I then pay for property taxes for 3% fee via PayPal with a Freedom card (4th quarter of the year is usually a 5% PayPal category).
Does one need to have a passport to apply for this card? An earlier post indicated the need to upload an ID and a passport.
According to the terms and conditions at https://www.mesamember.com/legal/mesa-homeowners-card-benefit-terms-of-use, the Lowe’s credit is only for the first 12 months (so $120 total) and you must be a member of MyLowe’s Rewards (which is free to join).
Still don’t get it. How does this company make money?
Does this work for existing mortgages or are they expecting customers to refinance through their portal?
I am a bit confused and Im not a homeowner yet. Are you saying that when I do get a mortgage I should incorporate the escrow taxes and insurance into the mortgage to pay with the Mesa card to better use?
Re: harvesting our data, isn’t that what literally every single financial company (or, really, tech company) does?
But the biggest problem to me is that in order to actually earn the points for mortgage payments, you have to spent $1k per month on the stupid card. Not a fan of having to keep track of that!
It is never a good idea to escrow property taxes, and insurance. NEVER.